Panini UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE 2015/2016 Stickers

Caniggia

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#1
More than a rumours, I have some confirmations, seems Panini has lost rights for this album. Next year Topps? It's not nationalism but with the experience of Bundesliga album, is not a good new at all!

Hoping Panini will save Euro and WC albums for the future..
 

Pavle

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#2
Wow! How reliable is the information? Doesn't it seam too soon for such a thing? I mean its still 14/15.
I do not think Topps UK has enough interest or money for the UCL.
What is the reason behind this? Is it financial or?

In my opinion its good to see more competition in the market. Hopefully new brand will pop-up. Sick and tired of same stuff Panini prints. Though last 2 UCL albums were neat.
 
#3
It would be a shame. After nine years to ruin the tradition of the series ...
That would be my disappointment.
Awaiting further information.
 

Caniggia

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I got this info from some guys who works with Panini, but when i'll go to Panini I'll ask.. if they are going to give me an answer. It seems also UCL is not sold like WC or EURO (and for sure in Italy so far from Calciatori) so maybe this could be another reason.
 

Pavle

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#5
Champions League is UEFA, so I guess it has nothing to do with the World Cup. But Euro Cup :O
I would still prefer an official reply, so lets see what happens. Interesting though.
 

Caniggia

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I'll wait also for an official reply, but is anyway an interesting topic :) Maybe will happen same like Calciatori years ago, just working on a new deal between Panini and Uefa.
 

Pavle

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Yup, UEFA might be trying to get more money. You know : Well Panini, if you do not want to pay more, then we have others interested. Honestly, I think Panini will pay the price, since UCL Adrenalyn and stickers are profitable market for them. Especially Adrenalyn last few years.
 

Danju

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#9
Please not!
if TOPPS will do this series, they will waste it. Lets hope that @Pavle is right and they are just bargaining.
It will not depend on how much money TOPPS is able to pay, if you see the U.K. und U.S.A. market, that TOPPS is ruling, and how much cards they produce world wide they might be liquid enough to spend that money.
 

dantzig

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To be honest, I always thought CL sticker collections were expensive for their real value... I mean, it's as big as a World Cup collection and it my not have even half the sales a WC have... Yet, Panini have raised prices until it cost so much as World Cup... Of course, this makes people wondering if it's worth paying so much for a collection with a lower value.

Also, the timespan to release CL collections throughout the world is something stupid, to say the least... There are some countries who only receives the collection in February, so many people already lost interest (even more if the clubs from the country are out in group stage)... Never understood this strategy and I'm sure they missed a lot of profit just for delaying the release in some countries.

I'm sure Panini pays a lot to UEFA for the rights, so combining everything I wrote before, it's normal to Panini begin to lose money (or not gaining as much as expected) and therefore, not renewing their rights is something completely understandable... Even if it's a rumour, it must have some truth in there.

Anyway, I hope it's not true, but Panini should redefine a lot in their marketing strategy... I gave some examples, but I'm sure they have other things to deal with.
 

dantzig

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#12
As long as Panini does not loose there rights to WC & Euro I will still be happy : )
World Cup collections are very poor, compared to Euro Cup... Panini deserves to lose World Cup rights, as they do not provide memorable collections and albums for the most important competition... Problem is, who can do it?
 

Caniggia

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I don't agree World Cup collections are very poor, could be better but i like the follow same standard since the beginning of Mexico 70 (i mean format of album etc). I hope for Russia 2018 they will add also stickers about history of WC
 

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I must agree with @dantzig on this one. Since the 1990 I have seen nothing new in albums. There are so many great things to be added, so many stats, text, trivia.
 

Caniggia

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on my opinion the real big thing I hope for next WC albums is having space for update stickers directly in the album, like happen for CALCIATORI every year (even this edition is different than last 15 years)
 

dantzig

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I don't agree World Cup collections are very poor, could be better but i like the follow same standard since the beginning of Mexico 70 (i mean format of album etc). I hope for Russia 2018 they will add also stickers about history of WC
Format is poor and being always the same just tells how lazy Panini is with this... And they don't care about it, because they know how crazy their profit will be achieved with sales.

Plus, it's sad to see some great collections released by Panini, such as Animals, National Geographic, others totally for kids, even some national leagues (I'm pretty satisfied with the national league collection from where I live), and then, for the most important competition in the football world, we have low quality stickers to be stuck in the same low quality albums.

So, I can't stop wondering why... Why they have so much profit and yet, they completely neglect World Cup? If we were in the 90's, fine, but we are in the 2015, where Panini even releases "fur" stickers for some collections (not that I want that, but it's an example), with such care for details in the album design... World Cup? The same boring layout, the same thin stickers, the same bla bla bla..... Could be their motto: "The same: because we're lazy to change".

I must agree with @dantzig on this one. Since the 1990 I have seen nothing new in albums. There are so many great things to be added, so many stats, text, trivia.
Trivia would be awesome indeed, maybe with the right option displayed in sticker... Like Caniggia, I would like to have some "history" in the album, but not only the same usual past winners... Remarkable players, or memorable moments (Maradona's hand of God or Iniesta goal shot in 2010 final) could be a nice addition... Even the team's pages could have a manager sticker.

Of course, collection would have more stickers, but I never disliked when Panini had some teams with two players in one sticker... But I wouldn't mind if collection would have even 700 stickers, because it's World Cup!

Sorry for the long post :p

P.S - My complaints are only towards WC collections... Even CL has improved something in the past years, Euro have some quality as well and others are just fine.
 

Andy

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or memorable moments (Maradona's hand of God)
Im really glad FIFA and Panini dont give any more publicity to that horrific moment which must've ashamed all Argentine Nationals and of course the poor refereeing (should've gone to specsavers) which pretty much devalued Argentina's world cup win in 1986...lets face it Maradona was probably "high" during the game but no little fat midget like him could out jump Shilton. Better picture maybe showing Maradona snort coke off a table at least he didnt need his hands for that or the 94 world cup where his eyes pop out of his head he's shot up soooo many times earlier when he scored that goal :)

On a serious...non-banter note agree with lads above - i used to like the mascot stickers/poster stickers of previous world cups... maybe taking on from Dantzig's idea of fur stickers - do proper 3D stickers of world cup winning goals like the Iniesta 2010??
 

dantzig

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Im really glad FIFA and Panini dont give any more publicity to that horrific moment which must've ashamed all Argentine Nationals and of course the poor refereeing (should've gone to specsavers) which pretty much devalued Argentina's world cup win in 1986...lets face it Maradona was probably "high" during the game but no little fat midget like him could out jump Shilton. Better picture maybe showing Maradona snort coke off a table at least he didnt need his hands for that or the 94 world cup where his eyes pop out of his head he's shot up soooo many times earlier when he scored that goal :)

On a serious...non-banter note agree with lads above - i used to like the mascot stickers/poster stickers of previous world cups... maybe taking on from Dantzig's idea of fur stickers - do proper 3D stickers of world cup winning goals like the Iniesta 2010??
Uoh, that's a killer statement... Seems you have a serious grudge against Maradona :p

Don't agree that particular goal devalued Argentina's win... Ok, it should have been 1-1, but Maradona also scored the most amazing goal in World Cups in that match and for such a goal, my vote goes to Argentina still going through... I do not have anything against England team (well, maybe that 1966 semifinals story, hehe), but that's how I see that 1986 match.

Anyway, agree that "hand of God" goal is not a "memorable" moment, but Maradona's other goal sure is.

3D stickers is a nice idea... Maybe something like the Double Trouble cards? I know it's possible to have that in stickers as well, I have a Dragon Ball Z collection with those type of stickers and they look amazing (so cool see Goku "normal" and then Super Saiyan :D)... So, with Iniesta shot, it could be 3 different images: just before the strike, the strike and right after the strike.

Since this is not the topic for World Cup and Pavle might be already cleaning up his rifles to shoot who's "offtopicking", maybe we could open a thread with this discussion? "Ideas to improve the next Panini's World Cup sticker collection".
 

Andy

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definately have a grudge against the druggie of course!! :) his 2nd goal in that game deserved to be memorable though I agree and is shown a lot, but from the footage of the full game ive seen on tape England were well on top for most, if not all of the 2nd half and that 1st goal was the crucial goal which killed England off as had to go hunting the equaliser which as you see left the DM's out of position to allow the midget to exploit space for the 2nd goal. Its a shame as like you say Argentina may still have won the game fairly like you say but we will never know and we all just have to accept they were happy to cheat again as their is no conscience in their footballers (just like the infamous 1978 win against Peru to knock out Brazil which has since been proved about the keeper although i suppose football has to blame Peru for that).

You have to remember that era for England was probably one of the best - ie 1982 world cup they were eliminated from the tournament without even getting beaten in one game...beating France 3-1 in groups who were by far the best team in the tournament and who were shockingly eliminated in the Semi-Final by any way necessary by the ruthless West Germany (thats another story!!), 1986 ripped off by Maradona punching ball in net, 1990 an unlucky penalty defeat in semi final (although cannot complain at that).

To be fair, at least Argentina now have a non-druggie world class footballer to be proud of in Messi.

the 1978 and 1986 world cups are definately devalued in my eyes because of these facts, as well as the ridiculous 2002 world cup which was my real first living memory of corrupt football at the top competition in world football. I was amazed it could happen, but with little nations like Honduras providing referees etc i guess anything is possible.

I feel your pain for the 1966 semi final - quite obviously the Portugal team was the best in that tournament but lost as were effectively playing "away"...the only reason england beat them was because in London. Portugal have since got revenge for that though!!

Maybe Panini could produce "corrupt moments in football" sticker section...that would be awesome. the first page could be a foreward by Sepp Blatter, the king of corruption :cool:
 

dantzig

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I understand your frustrations in those World Cups and to be honest, I think England was probably the team who has more complaints in World Cups... I still remember the Lampard goal in 2010 against Germany (which wouldn't be possible in 2014), which could have made England go on in a secure victory to QF.

England is always the same promising team to win the next World Cup, but they go down in the crucial matches... Also, England lacks some cunningness to other teams (I don't mean divings and such), being too naive in many moments... And from what I saw lately, England is nowhere close of being a contender for a Euro or World Cup... Maybe when english supporters don't have any faith in their team hehe... This reminds me something funny:

http://9gag.com/gag/aPvqOBR/what-it-would-be-like-if-england-won-the-world-cup

2002 was, by far, the worst World Cup in terms of refereeing... Almost all South Korea matches were a shame to football, mostly against Spain and Italy... And the referee in Italy match, Byron Moreno, was arrested some years later for being a "drug mail"... And wasn't in that World Cup that Brazil also had some help in the QF or SF? A shameful World Cup, that could have been the most beautiful one, since it was the first in Asia and they know how to host colourfully a competition.

Indeed, the 1966 is still engraved in many old fellows here in Portugal (you know the story)... Doesn't mean England didn't deserve either, but Portugal was on fire, with that amazing team led by Eusébio... Put down Brazil, recovered from 0-3 to 5-3 against that surprising North Korean team... It was a time where I was still very far from being born, but I saw those matches a few years ago and in Brazil match, Pelé was vulgarized by Portugal team (yeah, they also injured him, I know).
But you're right, we did get our revenge against England in 2004 and 2006 (Ricardo still haunts english supporters ahah)... Actually, Portugal lately has their own "buddies" and "nemesis" teams... For example, England and Netherlands are teams we are lucky against, while Spain, France or Germany are our usual nemesis... Oh and Greece, no portuguese will ever forget that defensive, anti-game team in 2004 :(

lol @ corrupt moments in football... Sepp Blatter, Qatar, that referee from 2002... I'm sure it would provide material to some pages!
 

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