Panini Mexico 1970 (Review + discussion)

[omeroguz]

hi guys,

here is the order sheet from mexico 70 with blue&red back

 

[ElPrince]

Wow, is this a sealed pack?

Update (28.01.16): Just confirmed by a long-time Panini 1970 collector - this version does exist! It must be ultra rare, though. Does anyone know anything about its origin? It does not have an "omaggio" stamp, so it has not been sold along with some comics or newspapers.

what do you mean with "this version does exist"?

 

[Suisse]

Mexico 70 , the GRAAL

 

[CSKA Sofia Forever]

what do you mean with "this version does exist"?

I had never seen it before - I only knew about the other four (L.20, asterisk ("flower"), Juanito with Rimet Cup, and Sombrero with Rimet Cup) regardless of their backs or the existence of an "omaggio" stamp on their fronts. There was an auction on ebay for four empty packets (just the paper) with the greenish L.20 with Juanito. I was wondering if this was just an experiment by someone who had the machine, or there was such a version for real. Well, a friend of mine, a long-time Panini 70 collector, showed me this packet - sealed with cards inside. He told me he has not seen it on ebay for about a decade! It must be real treasure! I was wondering what its origin is. The L.20, Juanito, and Sombrero packets were being sold at newspaper shops, the asterisk version were coming from the Italian albums (with 2 sealed packets inside), and the "omaggio" were distributed with some magazines. But I bet there is some story behind this ultra rare version. Does anyone know anything?

 

[CSKA Sofia Forever]

Mexico 70 , the GRAAL

Yes, and I guess "the grail of the grails" is having a complete Panini 70 collection of unused Bisvalida cards

 

[ElPrince]

I had never seen it before - I only knew about the other four (L.20, asterisk ("flower"), Juanito with Rimet Cup, and Sombrero with Rimet Cup) regardless of their backs or the existence of an "omaggio" stamp on their fronts. There was an auction on ebay for four empty packets (just the paper) with the greenish L.20 with Juanito. I was wondering if this was just an experiment by someone who had the machine, or there was such a version for real. Well, a friend of mine, a long-time Panini 70 collector, showed me this packet - sealed with cards inside. He told me he has not seen it on ebay for about a decade! It must be real treasure! I was wondering what its origin is. The L.20, Juanito, and Sombrero packets were being sold at newspaper shops, the asterisk version were coming from the Italian albums (with 2 sealed packets inside), and the "omaggio" were distributed with some magazines. But I bet there is some story behind this ultra rare version. Does anyone know anything?

Note: in auction were offered two pieces of coil (both sides of the packet) and not 4 empty packets
The paper was absolutely original (I have a small piece of it in my collection) .
The same seller listed another type of coil but many ebayer didn't seen it as it was listed on ebay.com. This second type has a red written "omaggio I.P."

 

[CSKA Sofia Forever]

Note: in auction were offered two pieces of coil (both sides of the packet) and not 4 empty packets
The paper was absolutely original (I have a small piece of it in my collection) .
The same seller listed another type of coil but many ebayer didn't seen it as it was listed on ebay.com. This second type has a red written "omaggio I.P."

So there must be an "omaggio I.P." version, too. Do you have pictures?

 

[ElPrince]

So there must be an "omaggio I.P." version, too. Do you have pictures?

Unfortunately I don't have any pic as I have lost the link to the auction.
I'll try to ask the guy who sold the item.

 

[omeroguz]

Hi,

I'm finally find Mexico 70 album, but problem is i'm not sure this is real or fake :/

can anybody help me ? is this real or fake ?

 

[dantzig]

Hi,

I'm finally find Mexico 70 album, but problem is i'm not sure this is real or fake :/

can anybody help me ? is this real or fake ?

Not an expert, far from it, but just checking the first post seems to be an italian version (well beaten up, with even coffee stains or something)... But surely @Caniggia will give a more precise answer.

EDIT: Duh, it has italian written all over... But yes, seems real to me.

 

[omeroguz]

Not an expert, far from it, but just checking the first post seems to be an italian version (well beaten up, with even coffee stains or something)... But surely @Caniggia will give a more precise answer.

EDIT: Duh, it has italian written all over... But yes, seems real to me.

thank you for answer if is there any expert, i hope he helps

 

[Suisse]

Me too , i think is a real album

 

[Caniggia]

On my opinion seems a real album, the main reason is the paper, fake editions have different. And if someone has to print a fake copy, for sure they do first edition (aprile 1970). Your album is second edition (maggio 1970). But of course is ok! Good job!

if you want you can have a look of my copy on http://forums.cardzreview.com/threads/caniggia-collection.551/

 

[Makhno]

Congrats @omeroguz ! You just found the grail that we all dream about ! Well, excepting the Cardzreview's aristocracy who's leader is the Duke of @Caniggia

 

[jaynunesp]

Dear all,
It has been famtastic learning so much with each one of you about Panini albums.
Can you please help me out with this- ive won this auction on ebay without having a clear view on the item photos

https://www.befr.ebay.be/itm/391489664315

Do you think album is original? What are those stickers on the first page instead of Juanito and Mexico 70 poster??

Thank you so much!
Jose

 

[Makhno]

Hi Jose,
you did not ask the owner before investing so much money ?

Regarding the sticker with the yellow lion, it is a widely spread heraldic figure in Europe. So it is difficult to answer. But I'm sure tsomeone here will bring the explanation.

 

[jaynunesp]

Hi,
My fault I know.. But I just noticed first page photos just now!!!
But I still didn't pay so still on time to request extra info.
What do you think of the photos?
Thanks

 

[Makhno]

Well, I'm not an expert of this album but it seems guenuine regarding quality of paper and its age. For the cards sticked inside, it is more difficult to say but you can suppose all, or most of them are guenuine too. The 2 stickers / cards on the first page don't belong to this album This is for sure. But I don't know where they come from.

 

[Caniggia]

I should check on my copy ... anyway I'm answering by msg with Jose to help him

 

[Makhno]

Caniggia Rescue Squad will solve this case !