Panini Euros update stickers discussion

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Caniggia

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This is a general question about Panini Euro albums, I know and I have update stickers (officials) for Euro 2008, what about Euro 2000 or Euro 2004? For Euro 2012 I have Italy, what about others?
 

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This is a general question about Panini Euro albums, I know and I have update stickers (officials) for Euro 2008, what about Euro 2000 or Euro 2004? For Euro 2012 I have Italy, what about others?
I think Euro updates only came out from Euro 2008 onwards... But I'm not an "update expert".

Euro 2012 also had France update sheet and they sold out fast (just like 2014 World Cup).
 

Caniggia

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So Euro 2012 for sure Italy and France. I don't undestand why every time France update are printed in so few copies... Italy there are a lot of still available
 

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Updates for Euros begin in 2008. There are no updates for former albums as far as I know.
In France, updates are printed in few copies because I think it is a small market for Panini.
For example, the Panini Magazine (called "Panini Foot" in France) which contains the updates is not regular like the oned edited in Spain (Jugon) or in Portugal (Craques). You never know when it would be printed. This is for sure linked to a small interest from french public.
On the other side, when these updates are printed, the magazine is sold out in Paris in few days and you can only find ones in small towns far from Paris. Some smart people buy all the magazines they find because they know they will sell them very expensive. I can understand but I hate it.
 

Caniggia

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It is like "Calciatori Mag" in Italy, if you are not in Panini mailing list you will never know when is out new number. During the years they have printed interesting items as exclusive or similars (for example, here I send you 2 picture about a special album of Conf Cup 2013), but anyway not about update. I mean they print some numbers with update but are not an exclusive. Anyway I still don't understand why "Panini Foot" don't print more copies, If they know people will buy several copies let's print more copies.. :)

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Makhno

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I have ordered this album of Conf Cup 2013 to Panini and they sent it to me without any problem, even if I'm french living in France. On the other hand, you can't order the "Panini Foot" from out of France. Even in France, I tried to order the one with extra french stickers but they answered it was out of print (2 days after the release date).
 

Caniggia

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I know this problem, some items from abroad I should order from foreign friends even are printed in Italy and even i live close to Modena :)
 

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Updates for Euros begin in 2008. There are no updates for former albums as far as I know.
In France, updates are printed in few copies because I think it is a small market for Panini.
For example, the Panini Magazine (called "Panini Foot" in France) which contains the updates is not regular like the oned edited in Spain (Jugon) or in Portugal (Craques). You never know when it would be printed. This is for sure linked to a small interest from french public.
On the other side, when these updates are printed, the magazine is sold out in Paris in few days and you can only find ones in small towns far from Paris. Some smart people buy all the magazines they find because they know they will sell them very expensive. I can understand but I hate it.
I was late to get the 2014 WC french update, only when the portuguese and spanish updates were released I tried some relatives to buy me the Panini Foot magazine, but without any luck... Fortunately, one got some starter packs, which had the France or Brazil Supporter Cards from Adrenalyn, plus a Adrenalyn Starter Pack with a Messi XXL card, so it was not so bad... But I'm still sad for not getting the french update :(

French collectors don't know what they miss, this last summer they had a lot of good and exclusive stuff.

I know this problem, some items from abroad I should order from foreign friends even are printed in Italy and even i live close to Modena :)
Panini is indeed strange... I understand why I can't order my own country league collection in the first months, but some other guy in Europe or even other country can order right from the beginning... Ok, foreign people can't buy packets or albums, but it's unfair to everyone who has to complete the album on their own... Also, it could lead to some devious tactics... For example, on eBay, I see a lot, and I mean a lot of sellers (actually, most are english) selling almost complete sets from portuguese league 2002/03 (be stickers or cards)... Why almost complete? Because they bought a complete collection from Panini, take out Cristiano Ronaldo rookie sticker/card (and maybe some more) and then sell the rest.
 

Danju

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To euro 2012 there are exsisting south american badges that were printed on a different foil just like with world cup 2014 stickers, made in argentina, too.
I think it has to be argentina but im not sure if they printed euro cup stickers at all, i know about brasil version stickers but they were simular to european version.
Maybe someone knows more about that.
As you can see in the fotos below , regular european version has those thin line "pinstripes" the other yersion does have more like shiny dots.
 

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To euro 2012 there are exsisting south american badges that were printed on a different foil just like with world cup 2014 stickers, made in argentina, too.
I think it has to be argentina but im not sure if they printed euro cup stickers at all, i know about brasil version stickers but they were simular to european version.
Maybe someone knows more about that.
As you can see in the fotos below , regular european version has those thin line "pinstripes" the other yersion does have more like shiny dots.
@Danju: seems like Argentina sometimes produces different shinies from the rest of the world... I've seen the other way around (can't recall where), like those "granulate shiny" being in the international version and they've produced with the regular silver shiny (like World Cup 2006).
 

Danju

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is it just to me or do they look like a 3rd version of shinys @Makhno ? your photos really look very different to mine.
is it your album ? or where did you get the fotos from ?

I received my from a collector from Mexico he told me, he swaped them with a random guy , not knowing where he is from. His, mexican stickers, are simular to european ones.

@dantzig you are right a guy from argentina told me they do because of producing costs , they just use shiny foil that allready exsist , they do not produce it with holograms like they use to in europe.

BTW, if you don´t know, this is what they did with 2014 badges:
 

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Makhno

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I found the pictures on Mercadolibre argentina website. And you're right, it seems that we are now with 3 differents badges versions...
 

dantzig

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is it just to me or do they look like a 3rd version of shinys @Makhno ? your photos really look very different to mine.
is it your album ? or where did you get the fotos from ?

I received my from a collector from Mexico he told me, he swaped them with a random guy , not knowing where he is from. His, mexican stickers, are simular to european ones.

@dantzig you are right a guy from argentina told me they do because of producing costs , they just use shiny foil that allready exsist , they do not produce it with holograms like they use to in europe.

BTW, if you don´t know, this is what they did with 2014 badges:
Yep, another shiny variation... Argentina have two then? Wow... Not sure if it's a plus or not... Good for shiny set, bad for simple collector.

That was the one I saw, the 2014 WC collection... They did almost the opposite, comparing with Euro 2012.
 

Danju

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I think i got it .
@Makhno has the Argentina Version and Stickers that I posted earlier are Venezuelan Version.

But now the question is , who ist printig vor Venezuela? Argentina , Brasil or Modena ? and why are they using different foil for them ? strange, is´nt it ?
 

dantzig

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I think i got it .
@Makhno has the Argentina Version and Stickers that I posted earlier are Venezuelan Version.

But now the question is , who ist printig vor Venezuela? Argentina , Brasil or Modena ? and why are they using different foil for them ? strange, is´nt it ?
Brasil. At least, quick search got me this brazilian seller with those shinies you've shown from Venezuela... @Jose Glaucio or @Diego Lucas can tell us that for sure.

I always thought Brasil supplied every south american country, but I guess Brasil-Argentina rivalry is even into Panini production :p I suppose Argentina also supplies other countries, like Brazil does... No? @Sergio Z you're peruvian, so which version did you get in Euro 2012?
 

Makhno

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Damned I'm so stupid. I knew there was a third version of shiny which I called "south america edition" but I can't remember where I found this pic... @Danju you're right : it must come from Venezuela.

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The brazilian version of the album is the same that Makhno posted.
I don't know about Euro 2012, but about Euro 2008 i have both versions (International and Brazilian) and regular stickers are a bit different quality. Brazilian stickers are more shinny than International. Shinny stickers are the same quality.
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