Panini Euro 1980 (Review + discussion)

[Lilywhite]

hey everyone, this is my first post to this site so apologies if I don't use it correctly.
I collect Europa 80 stuff, and have built up quite a decent collection.
But there are a few things that I'd love to know more about, and wondered if any of you guys can help?
The first is that I have one single sticker that has red text on the back. All the others are written in black type (except my one single San Carlo sticker). Any ideas why? Was it a promotional thing, or maybe country-specific? (See attached photo).
Another query is that I have a couple of boxes - one has 150 packs in, which is what I remember all the shops in the UK selling, but the other (empty) box is just for 100 packs. It's either French or Belgian I think - does anyone know how rare this size of box is? I've not seen one this size before.
My last query (sorry for all of these questions) - I see people mention on here about fake sticker packets. This worries me that I might have some! But is this serious? Is it really economically viable for people to produce fake packaging when they sell for about £25 on eBay? Does anyone have any first hand knowledge of this?
Thanks! If I can help anyone with anything they need to know about Europa 80, please ask and I'll try and help.

 

[Lilywhite]

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hey everyone, this is my first post to this site so apologies if I don't use it correctly.
I collect Europa 80 stuff, and have built up quite a decent collection.
But there are a few things that I'd love to know more about, and wondered if any of you guys can help?
The first is that I have one single sticker that has red text on the back. All the others are written in black type (except my one single San Carlo sticker). Any ideas why? Was it a promotional thing, or maybe country-specific? (See attached photo).
Another query is that I have a couple of boxes - one has 150 packs in, which is what I remember all the shops in the UK selling, but the other (empty) box is just for 100 packs. It's either French or Belgian I think - does anyone know how rare this size of box is? I've not seen one this size before.
My last query (sorry for all of these questions) - I see people mention on here about fake sticker packets. This worries me that I might have some! But is this serious? Is it really economically viable for people to produce fake packaging when they sell for about £25 on eBay? Does anyone have any first hand knowledge of this?
Thanks! If I can help anyone with anything they need to know about Europa 80, please ask and I'll try and help.

 

[Ceesmk]

Hi
1- I never saw Euro 80 stickers with red backside. I've got a complete and unstuck set and everything is in black. I've got a few swaps and it's in black too. Big suprise!
2- I don't know^^ But 100 packs is the normal size for Argentina 78 boxes in France.
3- The fakes are not for Europa 80; it concerns Mexico 70 (but the original are so expensive that it's easy to guess), and mainly München 74 and Argentina 78. You can find an exemple here
https://www.leboncoin.fr/collection/1054598366.htm?ca=12_s
The seller wrote "replica"; at the beginning, he wrote nothing, but I was surprised by the very low price (15 Euros each one) and so he changed his text.
No fake for Europa 80, the original sealed packs are not so expensive.

 

[Burkina2008]

Hey Ceesmk
I opened that link. Is the seller selling the fake bustas for 1 euro each???

 

[Ceesmk]

No; he asked "a good and serious price"
For him it's around 20 Euros

 

[Helios]

There are "fake" stickers out there ..mainly those very rare badges like Italy or England (single one offered for 150€ on eBay ).., but do not ask me how to detect them from the original ones..

 

[Ceesmk]

150 Euros?
In 1998 I bought 380 original stickers München 74 for 35 Euros (240 Francs) directly in Panini France...I did the same thing for Espana 82, and other collections...It was a beautiful time...

 

[Helios]

Wtf..that was a great deal.
I never thought about the possibility to order old series to that time..damn
A perfect set + empty album Europa 80 is offered for 1500-2000. Euro

 

[Ceesmk]

Even in 2005 the prices were not the sames on Ebay: I bought my complete set Euro 80 (with every shinny) for only 120 Euros, and Argentina 78 (with empty album) for 240 Euros. Even Mexico 70 was not so high. I've got an almost complete set (except flags and posters, already expensive!) because you could buy 15 stickers for around 20 Euros. The prices are completly crazy since only 8-10 years.

The problem of the old series is that during the 90s and the beginning of the 2000s (I speak for Panini France) some collectors, who were living near the factory Panini France, bought the stocks every week: so München 74, Argentina 78, Espana 82 and French Football 76 (the 1st one) were finally completly out of stock. Panini changed finally their prices and moved to Modena. That's why some collectors are able to sell on Ebay lots of complete sets. As for me I just bought München 74, Espana 82 and French Football 76 and 81 (I was born in 1981^^), and just for me; I was a teenager^^ Not money for more!

 

[Kacper13]

 

[Helios]

Fake or at least cut out and put on original/self made back..judge yourself.
Smaller than the other, stamp is blurry, backside is over lapping on the right side, cutting line on the bottom is not straight..

 

[donove]

I have a few Euro 80s which are quite similar only the backs on some are not yellowish as they usually are. It could obviously be the age of the stickers showing, but also the front texture of the picture seem a bit grainier on the lighter colored ones when it is held at an angle. Anyone have an idea if this is just production anomalies?

 

[LeicesterRob]

I have a few Euro 80s which are quite similar only the backs on some are not yellowish as they usually are. It could obviously be the age of the stickers showing, but also the front texture of the picture seem a bit grainier on the lighter colored ones when it is held at an angle. Anyone have an idea if this is just production anomalies?
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Hi @donove I've seen the same too. I think it is purely production issues whereby some past print runs were done at different times or by different printers. The puzzle picture (map) doesn't fit too well together either! Still, it's a great collection and in my eyes one of the best!

 

[donove]

Hi @donove I've seen the same too. I think it is purely production issues whereby some past print runs were done at different times or by different printers. The puzzle picture (map) doesn't fit too well together either! Still, it's a great collection and in my eyes one of the best!

Absolutely agree. A great set. I guess you are right about the print runs. I have quite a few later WC/EC issues with paler black/greyish backs among the ordinary black ones. Still a bit puzzled about the fronts, but I guess the printing process in the early 80s was not purely digital