Old album correction

Pei

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I have an old album in good condition except the middle pages got separated from it. I was wondering if there is a safe method to add those pages back to the album without damaging it?

Another question, i have 2 albums from the same collection and i was thinking to cut stickers from one album and paste to the other one since im very close to complete it and its very hard nearly impossible to find those stickers unglued.
Firstly I want to know if its recommended doing so , if yes, what's the best and safest way to do it?
Also looking for recommended videos on this.

Thanks.
 

dantzig

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Answer to first question.

About second question, many people use stickers from other albums, as long as it keeps only the original sticker (no cut out from album).

Once I wrote how to do remove stickers, I've done it with old albums I had and I'm still keeping all the stickers I removed safely stored in pocket sheets... Probably it was still in the old forum :\ Anyway, if you want to give a shot, then use synthetic diluent and spread some into the sticker and on the back too (actualy, it's better to dip that part of the page with the sticker, just enough to be under the liquid)... Wait a few minutes and I think the sticker begins to come out if you peel it gently

The stronger the diluent, the less auto-adhesive power the sticker will have... Something with naphtha might be enough, if the album you want to use was well preserved.

Anyway, it's a tiring work :/ Might as well try first in some expendable album... If you see the sticker is not coming out, don't force it and try to apply some more diluent (use a brush or something similar)... Also, if you take the sticker out, but still has some paper attached, try to scrape it off with a sharp scissor or knife (but very gently, so you don't ruin the sticker), like when you shave your beard :)
 
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Pei

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Answer to first question.

About second question, many people use stickers from other albums, as long as it keeps only the original sticker (no cut out from album).

Once I wrote how to do remove stickers, I've done it with old albums I had and I'm still keeping all the stickers I removed safely stored in pocket sheets... Probably it was still in the old forum :\ Anyway, if you want to give a shot, then use synthetic diluent and spread some into the sticker and on the back too (actualy, it's better to dip that part of the page with the sticker, just enough to be under the liquid)... Wait a few minutes and I think the sticker begins to come out if you peel it gently

The stronger the diluent, the less auto-adhesive power the sticker will have... Something with naphtha might be enough, if the album you want to use was well preserved.

Anyway, it's a tiring work :/ Might as well try first in some expendable album... If you see the sticker is not coming out, don't force it and try to apply some more diluent (use a brush or something similar)... Also, if you take the sticker out, but still has some paper attached, try to scrape it off with a sharp scissor or knife (but very gently, so you don't ruin the sticker), like when you shave your beard :)
Thanks for the answer.
Can you show me which synthetic dilute do you mean ? or where can i get it online ?
My father told me to try moving the sticker over a hot steam glass, i tried it and it actually worked with one sticker but i stopped after that. I want to try this dilute before continuing.
 

dantzig

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Yep, something hot, but not burning, under the page, will also do the trick... What you want is something to either melt or dissolve only the sticker glue... Of course, the more dry the glue is, the more harder it is to take out the sticker... But if you managed to do it with a hot steam glass, I don't see why you shouldn't keep going ;) The sticker you took still has some auto-adhesive power?

If you still want to try the diluent, I advise you to go to a local drugstore and ask for something synthetic... I know diluent it might be called something else in other countries, it's what you use to dilute paints and such... Anyway, I have a Leroy & Merlin megastore nearby and can easily find one of those.

Btw, a good quality synthetic diluent with naphta also evaporates much slower, so just a small quantity can easily serve to remove many stickers (again, those who are easy to come out, with the glue not so dry).
 
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aferg2000

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Anyone know what this synthetic diluent would be in the UK? Is it white spirit? If so I have tried brushing gently the back of the sticker with white spirit but no joy so far. Do I have to soak the front and back of the sticker but concerned about the impact on the sticker? I have a number of the approx 40 year old Panini F1 stickers where the backing will not shift off them and I have already ruined several by trying various means of removal including steaming and now white spirit. I could just stick them in the album with the backing on them but I'm a bit fussy :)
 

aferg2000

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Thanks I'll take a look. Have you had any experience of using this on stickers and if so how successful was it? Do you just use it on the back of the sticker and let it soak through?
 

dantzig

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Thanks I'll take a look. Have you had any experience of using this on stickers and if so how successful was it? Do you just use it on the back of the sticker and let it soak through?
Yeah, I removed USA 94 and Mexico 86 stickers mainly from damaged complete albums (but almost all stickers were good, still lost a few though).

You don't really need to soak the sticker, but use a brush on both sides. Always try first on one to see if there's no damage. Let it dry some seconds, but not completely, so you can remove the sticker. If you see it's not coming out well, do not force it and instead use again a bit more of the solvent in the area you want. Just the brush soaked is good enough to remove some stickers, so a bottle of solvent should be enough to remove hundreds.

And very important: Use gloves and mask, in some ventilated area.
 

Guinness

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anyone got any fresh advice on how to do it?

I finally managed to find #23 for EURO 2004 in some random album online for low price now looking to pull it and put it in my album.

How to safely remove it? How to glue it?

I did read advice above, but hopefully there are some fresh insights...
 

dantzig

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anyone got any fresh advice on how to do it?

I finally managed to find #23 for EURO 2004 in some random album online for low price now looking to pull it and put it in my album.

How to safely remove it? How to glue it?

I did read advice above, but hopefully there are some fresh insights...
My advice still stands, never found anything better than that... you should try on another sticker first, maybe on some sticker that is exactly on the backside of Ronaldo, since it's easier to remove if you brush the back.

Diluent shouldn't be expensive, though using it just once is a waste of money... But I've used for many other occasions and still have a tiny bit left for some emergency :p

As for gluing it, just add some quality gluestick on the sticker and press it well in the album.
 

Guinness

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My advice still stands, never found anything better than that... you should try on another sticker first, maybe on some sticker that is exactly on the backside of Ronaldo, since it's easier to remove if you brush the back.
Ah not sure what is diluent but I'll try to find it locally, thank you again :D


As for gluing it, just add some quality gluestick on the sticker and press it well in the album.
Not to use 2-sided tape? I heard some use it, that's why I am asking.
 

dantzig

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Ah not sure what is diluent but I'll try to find it locally, thank you again :D




Not to use 2-sided tape? I heard some use it, that's why I am asking.
It's my portuguese meddling up again (diluente) :p Should be called "thinner" or "solvent", I always used a synthetic one... they're very used to remove glue from many materials and in this case, never harm the paper itself.

I've never used 2-sided tape, too expensive... but if it works, why not, as long it's not very thick.
 

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