How low are YOU willing to go to get what you need?

dantzig

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First of all, the title is not an "attack" to you who is reading this... or it may be, depending if your actions are reflected on what I'll write next.

As all of you, I swap sometimes. Mostly do it with trusted friends, who I don't even bother checking if it's a fair swap or not (and they do not abuse too). Many times I'm also fortunate to receive more than what I give. Some of you here know it very well. My sincere thank you to all of you and sorry if I'm a nuisance sometimes :p

But... there's also the ugly side of swaps. That ugly side where you see how they try to take advantage of you. And this frustrates me when these leechers comes like a jet.

Since this pandemic started, I obviously try to keep at home as much as possible. Sadly in my area things are not really improving. So last days, I decided to update a lot of my lists in Last Sticker, mostly loose sticker sets I'll try to complete.

First I tried to search some good swaps, that would fulfill both parties. Found some, but sadly, most either don't answer or don't want to swap. It's "normal", move on.

Then I made myself available to swap (in LS, you can turn off your availability to swap) and of course, proposals came like a river flowing fast. As expected, most are absurd, but one of them was so absurd that it's hard for me to imagine that a guy with over 300 feedback didn't know what he was asking.

Among all these last attempts to swap, one of them actually went through. A nice guy with one simple feedback. I noticed he had a lot of those irish rare players to swap in World Cup 2002 album. I needed just one from him and for that, I gave him 3 stickers, one a shiny. Sadly, he answered later he didn't have that anymore. I checked his revised list and as expected, almost all irish were gone. I told him about how irish were rare and yes, of course he didn't even know.

I don't want to be some SJW as they call it. But I hate these situations. Hence the title, how low are YOU willing to go to get what you need?

P.S. - Still willing to swap :p
 

LFC1892

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I feel your pain. Similar situation on LS. I listed many doubles for Panini AXL EURO 2020 UK edition. Many of them are the hard to pull N IRL, REP IRL & SCOTLAND.

The amount of pm i received with SHIT offers was unbelievable. One female collector from Serbia wanted 15 of them including shiny ones for 15 La Liga AXL all base with no shiny. I said to her you need to give me at least 25 of what you have because mine are tough to pull. She got angry and fucked off. Good riddance.

A second one from a Spanish guy who wanted all 26 of them YES 26 in return for 26 base La Liga AXL. When I told him that the ones I have are tough to get and not easy to pull he asked how much is shipping to Canada? FFS he should know in Euros how much it is, not me. I said to him limit of 10 cards only as I have many people messaging me.
Suffice to say I have not heard from him for a week now.

These are just 2 examples of others out there not knowing "their ass from their elbow" as the saying goes.

I wasn't being greedy, these cards cost about £2-3 and more for shiny ones. I told every PM about it. Ignorant fools.
 

dantzig

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Yeah, fortunately I didn't list my doubles from that UK edition, obviously would be massively harassed... still need some of those, but will order them from Panini UK to a friend's address (one of those that surprisingly is not fed up of me ahah).

I can tell you the absurd swap proposal I got from that +300 feedback guy: he had 30 cards/stickers for me, the ones more valuable where 2/3 limiteds from Euro 2020 (released in UK, so not so rare). Also a couple of gold stickers from WC18. Rest were all very normal stickers/cards from different sets, LS ratio is obviously quite low.

Now, among my 18 cards he wanted: one WC14 Double Trouble, three WC14 nordic (goal machines, the ones I'm trying to swap for the three nordic I need), a lot of Road WC18 uk exclusives.

I even asked first "what's your proposal?", thinking that, well, he wouldn't go at least for the rare WC14 cards... but yeah, he just said "my 30 for your 18".

This is also why many times I prefer to buy from Panini/Topps those I really need and just sell on ebay what I have more.
 

LFC1892

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Yours is another example of either stupidity or a chancer who wants to take advantage of another collector.
Glad you told him to go where the sun don't shine. ;)
The WC14 you have on offer are rare and HTF still.
I also got someone wanting to swap Calciatori stickers for the UK cards, haha. Said to him cards v cards or stickers v stickers. Didn't hear from him either. Excellent!!!
 

dantzig

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Yours is another example of either stupidity or a chancer who wants to take advantage of another collector.
Glad you told him to go where the sun don't shine. ;)
The WC14 you have on offer are rare and HTF still.
I also got someone wanting to swap Calciatori stickers for the UK cards, haha. Said to him cards v cards or stickers v stickers. Didn't hear from him either. Excellent!!!
Yeah, I politely told him I wouldn't swap with him after such attempt (he asked before what we could swap then)... Can't trust these people after this.

Just wished to find some nice swaps, though I'm aware almost all I'm searching are not recent collections. However, I still try with people I can find. I even check if they are regular members and also by their feedback if they swap just in their country or international. Check to see if swap is good for BOTH, as I'm fairly aware of what's more rare or not. If all conditions met (not easy, I know), I send a message. Most don't answer or if they do, they don't want to swap.

Can't seem to find the balance I require... I think I'm not even picky, can surely swap among collections, can even help if I have more... but not when they want to give cat for hare.
 

Anmarvel

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Yeah, fortunately I didn't list my doubles from that UK edition, obviously would be massively harassed... still need some of those, but will order them from Panini UK to a friend's address (one of those that surprisingly is not fed up of me ahah).

I can tell you the absurd swap proposal I got from that +300 feedback guy: he had 30 cards/stickers for me, the ones more valuable where 2/3 limiteds from Euro 2020 (released in UK, so not so rare). Also a couple of gold stickers from WC18. Rest were all very normal stickers/cards from different sets, LS ratio is obviously quite low.

Now, among my 18 cards he wanted: one WC14 Double Trouble, three WC14 nordic (goal machines, the ones I'm trying to swap for the three nordic I need), a lot of Road WC18 uk exclusives.

I even asked first "what's your proposal?", thinking that, well, he wouldn't go at least for the rare WC14 cards... but yeah, he just said "my 30 for your 18".

This is also why many times I prefer to buy from Panini/Topps those I really need and just sell on ebay what I have more.
Me too. I dont want to waste my time in useless proposals.

I know that the Swiss edition of world cup or Euro cup is difficult to get, but In Panini is easy. At least, Euro 2016 and World cup 2018. One week ago, I received the Spanish national team stickers.
 
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