European Super League: Yay or Nay?

dantzig

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All the apologies from club owners mean nothing. Too little too late. Damage already done.

What's bothering me is the the sanctimonious hypocrisy of the FA, Premier League, other clubs, UK media, UEFA, and the UK government is stomach-churning.

The gullible UK public/fans is falling for it too.
There are no saints here mate, but the 12 managed to make UEFA some kind of "football martyr".

Just read now Perez interview after ESL broke up and it's amazing the POV that old fart has about football... some quotes:

“The one from Manchester saw the campaign saying this will kill the leagues, that it won’t allow [sporting] merit, that it was the end of football. There are people who have privileges and don’t want to lose them, even if it ruins football."
What the hell, in the end he just said what HE is!

“The owners are mostly not English. They’re not in it to make money, they have teams in America, love sport and they found themselves in a position they didn’t expect. They’re old, they got scared,” said Pérez, who is 74.
Ahah, that final remark about Perez age... "not into making money", "love sport"... are we talking about the same owners who didn't care for fans general opinion and got on board immediately after JP Morgan waved the bills at them?

Regarding Chelsea fans protest: “There were 40 of them and if you like I’ll tell you who brought them there.” (...) “Well, the person who put them there,” he said, not entirely coherently. “Like the one who organised the T-shirts in Cádiz. The same, the same. This isn’t normal.”

Right, 40... is he senile or genuinely think we're all stupid and can't count the massive crowd gathered outside Chelsea training grounds?

"It cannot be that in England, the six lose money and 14 make money. In Spain the top three lose money, and the others make money. That can’t continue; it is the rich are those who are losing money.”

What the... so everyone is earning money except the rich? Is this man real or simply out of touch? :eek: Even if this was true (which isn't, no club is profitting from a pandemic), perhaps a better management should be in place? Don't expect to earn profits out of nowhere just because you're a big club... Don't expect to amass scandalous debts and think it's all good because the club is worth much more.

Read also Barcelona statement and it's basically the same POV as Perez, but covered in a false apology.
 

LFC1892

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There are no saints here mate, but the 12 managed to make UEFA some kind of "football martyr".

Just read now Perez interview after ESL broke up and it's amazing the POV that old fart has about football... some quotes:

“The one from Manchester saw the campaign saying this will kill the leagues, that it won’t allow [sporting] merit, that it was the end of football. There are people who have privileges and don’t want to lose them, even if it ruins football."
What the hell, in the end he just said what HE is!

“The owners are mostly not English. They’re not in it to make money, they have teams in America, love sport and they found themselves in a position they didn’t expect. They’re old, they got scared,” said Pérez, who is 74.
Ahah, that final remark about Perez age... "not into making money", "love sport"... are we talking about the same owners who didn't care for fans general opinion and got on board immediately after JP Morgan waved the bills at them?

Regarding Chelsea fans protest: “There were 40 of them and if you like I’ll tell you who brought them there.” (...) “Well, the person who put them there,” he said, not entirely coherently. “Like the one who organised the T-shirts in Cádiz. The same, the same. This isn’t normal.”

Right, 40... is he senile or genuinely think we're all stupid and can't count the massive crowd gathered outside Chelsea training grounds?

"It cannot be that in England, the six lose money and 14 make money. In Spain the top three lose money, and the others make money. That can’t continue; it is the rich are those who are losing money.”

What the... so everyone is earning money except the rich? Is this man real or simply out of touch? :eek: Even if this was true (which isn't, no club is profitting from a pandemic), perhaps a better management should be in place? Don't expect to earn profits out of nowhere just because you're a big club... Don't expect to amass scandalous debts and think it's all good because the club is worth much more.

Read also Barcelona statement and it's basically the same POV as Perez, but covered in a false apology.
The man is deluded. His old age is really catching up to his brain with the shite he spouted.
Rich lose money, haha. I've heard it all. The richer they become the stingier/greedier they get. FACT!!!
This guy is gonna get hit by a bus or a train and it won't be a loss to the world.
 

CSKA Sofia Forever

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It is all about the insane spending that killed all smaller leagues, i.e., smaller markets. The aim? Getting global and attracting all cash in the world. The outcome? A bubble, i.e., spending more than earning, "planning" with future revenues. A bit of stochasticity, like covid, and the bubble is about to explode. The "solution"? Let us earn more cash. Immediately! Call it "save the game" while it is nothing less than "save our fat asses". Let us see "solidarity" for Girondins de Bordeaux - on the verge of bankrupcy due to the explosion of the TV rights bubble for Ligue 1. I am not even talking about other parts of Europe where all football (and other) resources have already been sucked out. Abnornal greed creates inequality, abnormal inequality creates insecurity. We are the ones to decide what we want. The rich want only to get richer. There is hardly any counterexample in history
 

paul85

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All i hear is greed .... but the champions league format does need a shift. Maybe even a new name ... since its Some champions & some 2-3-4 places plus a few eastern european teams.

It has been stale for a few years now.

Before throwing stones @ these 12 lets not forget the ones that allowed all this to happen ... the deeply corrupted FIFA/UEFA and local FA's. They all enjoyed big spending (ability to negotiate higher fees for broadcasting rights). They even called it financial fair play.

PSG spends 220 million ... and pays salary of 20 million from a league with mild following. Nowhere near the neccesary revenue ... but it seems thats not a problem ... they just loaned Mbappe ... etc:)

Maybe an all round max salary cap to enter the "Champions League" would solve some issues...or that will make them find new ways to mask things...
 

Baudelaire

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Only solution to fix football would be to massively cut down enormous spending. To massively cut down the amount of money that is in football. That's the only chance for things to start changing for better.

Sadly, it's never going to happen.

That would make smaller clubs more competitive all over Europe and in turn give us more exciting European cups. I know it's never going to happen, because football is going completely the other way. Money, money, money.

Excitement and unpredictability are foundations of competitive football, with plans that Agnelli and Perez laid out, to make their position and finances more predictable and completely independent of results, they are killing the sport's main idea.

UEFA have no moral high grounds on this though. Ever since they switched from European Cup to Champions League, every single reform has been made to help the very same elite that has turned against them now. Even the new Champions League is the very same crappy thing that will benefit only the big clubs.
 

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